May 24, 2022, an 18-year-old, (we won’t say his name), entered the Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas and with an assault rifle fatally shot nineteen students - children really -, and two teachers, and wounded seventeen other people. Earlier in the day, he shot his grandmother in the forehead at home, severely wounding her. Harold’s guest is Sarah Hidalgo-Cook and they talk about the recent shooting of the …

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